BOOK TOUR INFO

GodComicThe virtual book release party for There Is No God And He Is Always With You (available at bookstores and Amazon, Barnes and Noble, or Indie Bound) is tomorrow at 6pm Pacific Time (9pm Eastern, 8pm Central, 7pm Mountain) at:

http://www.spreecast.com/events/there-is-no-god-release-party

Also, today (June 10, 2013) at 6pm Pacific Time I will be on The Dark Mark Show podcast. It’s at http://gocastnetwork.com/

LIVING ROOM TOUR OF THE NORTHEAST
• 19-June    Toronto    7 p.m.    Snow Lion Bookstore 708a Pape Avenue, Toronto, ON

• 20-June   Ithaca, NY    7 p.m.    Ulysses Philomathic Library 74 E. Main Street, Trumansburg, NY 14886    https://www.facebook.com/events/177703205728097/?ref=14

• 21-June    Pittsburgh    7 p.m.    Black Cat Tattoos 3419 Butler Street 15201 Pittsburgh, PA    https://www.facebook.com/events/167000203473975/?ref=14

• 22-June    Akron    7 p.m.    Arkham Tattoo 788 North Main Street, Akron, OH 44310

• 22-June    Akron 10 p.m. Zero Defex at Old Haunts Tavern 1527 E. Market St. Akron, OH

• 23-June    Cleveland   6 pm zazen, 7pm talk 1360 W. Miner, Mayfield Hts, OH 44124    https://www.facebook.com/events/554215741287955/?ref=14

• 23-June     Cleveland 10 p.m. Zero Defex at Now That’s Class 11213 Detroit Ave  Cleveland, OH 44102

• 24-June    Pitman, NJ    8 p.m.    519 Grandview Ave, Pitman, NJ 08071    https://www.facebook.com/events/535192329849584/?ref=14

• 25-June    Philadelphia, PA    8 p.m.    TBA

• 26-June    Newark, Delaware    5:30 p.m.    The Meadow (next to the co-op) 280 East Main Street, Market East Plaza, Newark, DE 19711

• 27-June    Annapolis, Maryland    7 p.m.    Universalist Unitarian Church of Annapolis 333 Dubois Rd, Annapolis, MD 21401    https://www.facebook.com/events/541018419278312/?ref=14

• 28-June    Asbury Park, NJ    7 p.m. Pure Health Bar & Yoga 701 Cookman Ave Asbury Park, NJ

• 29-June    Long Island, NY Clear Mountain Zen Center 519 Hempstead Ave., West Hempstead, NY 11553

UPAYA ZEN CENTER

• 10 July Upaya Zen Center 1404 Cerro Gordo Rd  Santa Fe, NM 87501 http://www.upaya.org/index.php

RETREAT AT MT. BALDY

• Nov 8-11 We will hold another retreat at Mt. Baldy Zen Center. Details to follow soon.

All of these events are open to the public. I will be traveling alone, surviving on donations and book sales. So please come out if I’m in your area!

See you there!

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My group Dogen Sangha Los Angeles is trying to raise funds to incorporate itself. You can donate here.

And I’m trying to raise personal funds to support myself too. You can donate to the tour in advance if you like right here!

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  1. Kvitsh
    Kvitsh June 10, 2013 at 2:58 pm | |

    Still coming to Edmonton?

  2. Anonymous
    Anonymous June 10, 2013 at 3:14 pm | |

    *makes obligatory Kindle corny joke*

    1. sri_barence
      sri_barence June 10, 2013 at 3:17 pm | |

      [insert mandatory smart-ass reply here]

  3. Anonymous
    Anonymous June 10, 2013 at 3:19 pm | |

    *posts totally off-topic 1,200-word reply about my take on obscure Buddhist text*

  4. Rich
    Rich June 10, 2013 at 4:23 pm | |

    Am reading the book now on kindle and enjoying. Holy crap I think the secret of the universe will be revealed in the next chapter ……. no that was about having faith that if you move to Finland you’ll become taller and better looking. Anyway this is a great book, but don’t take my word on that – find out for yourself.

  5. Fred
    Fred June 10, 2013 at 4:49 pm | |

    *blathers on about no-self upon the Absolute*

  6. JohnKobeck
    JohnKobeck June 10, 2013 at 5:15 pm | |

    I sure hope you make it to NYC!

  7. Mumbles
    Mumbles June 10, 2013 at 5:42 pm | |

    I woke up smothering in my own skin. First I’d dreamed that my friend was smothering me with a pillow, and awakened in a panic, then thought about being in the womb, how claustrophobic that must be, and then being born into this, an atmosphere breathable enough, but trapped in a body. Worried that death will no doubt come with a last breath, a certain smothering effect, no doubt, and then the bardos where the soul flies hither and yon seeking shelter until it finds a womb-home for a while all over again. Left with the feeling of entrapment in the flesh, caught here in this form, but who is caught? What is feeling this? Surely not the construct of personality that I think of as myself, that is total fabrication. What is inside and outside anyway? These are only concepts, easy explanations. What is free and what is not free, and from what exactly? It is caught in the eyes, the blood flow, the glitter of living. But where am I now? Is meditation a way of reconciling what is with what is not, obliterating the distinctions of what is here and there, everywhere. I can close my eyes and do labeling, and that is calming, I can open them and label what I see, these thoughts, these make believe moments in and outside of time and space, and it all becomes a kind of song, a poem that rides on the breath. I want to escape this skin I’m in, or am I?

  8. Fred
    Fred June 10, 2013 at 5:56 pm | |

    Actually, the universe is dreaming that it’s in you and it can’t get out.

  9. Harlan
    Harlan June 10, 2013 at 6:17 pm | |

    Thank you 108. I read through the preview and will buy the book. I must say from the few pages that I read that I feel this might be Brad’s most mature work. That only makes sense I guess. I have remarked in the past that he should combine travel writing with philosophy. I love both forms as long as the philosophizing isn’t too dry. Anyway, looking forward to the read.

  10. Harlan
    Harlan June 10, 2013 at 6:29 pm | |

    Mumbles, Not as poetic as your experience but I had one of the most vivid dreams of my life last night. I dreamed I suffered an electrical shock at about 2AM. It was very intense and sat me upright in bed. Upon awakening I first thought it was a lightning strike close to the window. I even worried that my wife might have been affected. Then laying there I thought maybe I had some kind of stroke or something. Checked all my fingers and toes. Everything moved so I went back to sleep. Still not convinced it was a dream.

  11. Mark Foote
    Mark Foote June 10, 2013 at 8:39 pm | |

    *questions Brad or other teachers/authors, quotes himself, posts a video or a picture of Yosemite*

  12. MJGibbs
    MJGibbs June 10, 2013 at 8:44 pm | |

    The new book is awesome, Brad (and you did a lot more Sam Harris research than I assumed pre-read lol).

    Wish I could express all the things I want to say about it, but my brain is currently in lazy mode, so I’ll just say I think it’s an important book for humanity and that it might just be your best.

    I do have one question though:

    What is the mantra that Dogen said to chant during middle existence?

  13. Mark Foote
    Mark Foote June 10, 2013 at 8:48 pm | |

    Seriously, life is too important to take seriously! (Shunryu Suzuki, more or less)

    Propitious dreams. Ok, now that I’ve looked that up, that wasn’t what I thought it was, but I will hope they are anyway!

    I feel like I’m behind myself at the end of a sentence, speaking, often lately. Listening to myself. Weird.

    “it all becomes a kind of song, a poem that rides on the breath…”;

    “The ability to relax and allow action generated by the stretch of ligaments or fascia is part of the necessity of breath in the posture, and informs the place of occurrence of consciousness and the ability to feel.” Maybe: “is a part of the song of breath…”

  14. Shodo
    Shodo June 10, 2013 at 10:55 pm | |

    What the hell Brad…?!

    “The Meadow”…?? At the Newark Natural Foods Co-Op??

    I guess I will be buying your book, I mean, since you are coming to where I friggin’ WORK now.

    LoL, life is a funny thing. ;)

  15. anon 108
    anon 108 June 11, 2013 at 3:29 am | |

    Harlan,

    Re your electric shock dream – check this out out:

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Exploding_head_syndrome

    Happened to me a couple of times – though not for a while, thankfully. It was pretty scary. I’m not saying that’s what your thing was, but it might have been.

  16. Mumbles
    Mumbles June 11, 2013 at 4:56 am | |

    It appears to be some kind of gnostic, existential break or opening, but opening into/onto what exactly? Consciousness is a closed system, whether “the universe is dreaming that it’s in you and it can’t get out” or you are dreaming you are in the universe you can’t get out. The illusion of location within or without is a convenience of language and conceptualization. There is no escape, there is nothing to escape from.

    “What disintegrates in periods of rapid transformation is not the self, but its defenses and assumptions. Self-protection restricts vision and movement like a suit of armor, making it harder to adapt. Going to pieces, however uncomfortable, can open us up to new perceptions, new data, and new responses.”
    - Joanna Macy

  17. Harlan
    Harlan June 11, 2013 at 5:02 am | |

    108, Yes that sounds like what happened to me. Exploding head syndrome? Aptly named I think..

    Dug out my Kindle this morning after purchasing Brad’s book last night. I hadn’t touched it in a few months and the thing still had an almost full charge. That’s impressive considering I have to charge my phone almost everyday..

  18. sri_barence
    sri_barence June 11, 2013 at 5:55 am | |

    I confess to having read Brad’s latest book. Thoughtful and thought-provoking, if a bit on the warm-and-fuzzy side. I miss Brad’s usual theme story, though. He does talk about his own experiences with Zen practice some (I find myself wishing he wouldn’t). All in all, I can recommend this book with a clear conscience. It is certainly different from anything I’ve read on the God question. Except for Oolon Colluphid’s books. There might be some trouble there, if Brad ever goes hitchhiking.

  19. anon 108
    anon 108 June 11, 2013 at 6:01 am | |

    What do I have to do to get me a gravatar avatar? I see no way to upload a picture on my settings page. Do I need re-register/up-grade or something?

    1. stonemirror
      stonemirror June 11, 2013 at 6:07 am | |

      To get a Gravatar, you need to go to http://gravatar.com and register one. They get associated with your email address.

      1. anon 108
        anon 108 June 11, 2013 at 6:29 am | |

        Thanks, stonemirror. But for some reason I can’t log into my wordpress account – password’s not being recognised (I’ve tried both of my email adddresses and my username with confirmed, ie just re-registered pw). Never mind.

        1. anon 108
          anon 108 June 11, 2013 at 6:36 am | |

          …I’m assuming I’ve already got a wordpress.com account – as a result of registering on this blog. Am I assuming wrong?

          1. anon 108
            anon 108 June 11, 2013 at 6:55 am |

            Assuming that I’ve assumed wrong, I just tried to create a new wordpress account, to satisfy gravatar. WordPress says my email and username already exist. So it appears I DO already have a wordpress.com account – the one registered here. But gravatar won’t let me sign in with it – says it’s invalid (either the email or the pw, that is). Should I sit more?

          2. Mark Foote
            Mark Foote June 11, 2013 at 8:58 pm |

            anon 108, the WordPress.com account will be different than the login for this blog (far as I know). The signup for a user account only is here:

            https://signup.wordpress.com/signup/?user=1

            I posted this before but alas, I put two links in it.

  20. Leah
    Leah June 11, 2013 at 6:32 am | |

    Well gosh how’d you find Pitman, NJ? Last I looked, there are like 5 houses there. Or so.

    Guess I should come on out and say hi but Philly is closer so I’ll wait to see where that’s going to happen.

    What I’ll really want to ask you is whether you tell pervy pirate jokes in person or do you only do that online. Nah I’ll be polite :)

  21. Mark Foote
    Mark Foote June 11, 2013 at 6:56 am | |

    anon 108, the WordPress.com account will be different than the login for this blog (far as I know). The signup for a user account only is here:

    https://signup.wordpress.com/signup/?user=1

    “The illusion of location within or without is a convenience of language and conceptualization.”

    Through the movement of breath, the “where I am” that is informed by the senses can act; that’s my experience. Those actions are sometimes completely out of the context of my situation and environment, and yet in my experience they turn out to be exactly appropriate to a larger context and environment that I failed to consciously appreciate at the time.

    *questions Brad, quotes self, posts video.*

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sCWt45Qgf3s

  22. Alizrin
    Alizrin June 11, 2013 at 7:19 am | |

    If I can get to Philly, I will be there. But in the meantime, I got your book yesterday (I hope you at least get some of the bucks from it). I’m glad to see that your book is higher in new release ratings than the new book by the Sakyong (of Shambhala fame)(I know, it’s not a competition but still I kind of have sour grapes with Shambhala and so I was happy to see that). In fact, this morning it was listed as number 1 whatever the category it is put in. I was looking at the title and wondered whether my evangelical Christian auntie who I am going to see soon will think I have finally embraced her GOD.

  23. Harlan
    Harlan June 11, 2013 at 7:21 am | |

    108, I just bumbled my way through the process successfully. It can be done.

    1. anon 108
      anon 108 June 11, 2013 at 7:36 am | |

      Harlan, if you’re feeling helpful, do you want to suggest where I may have gone wrong (see my notes above)? If not, no worries.

  24. Harlan
    Harlan June 11, 2013 at 8:06 am | |

    108, I went to the gravatar site and found that I had not registered to wordpress. I registered with the same email addy I used to register with HCZ then followed the onscreen instructions. Sorry I can’t be more helpful.

    1. anon 108
      anon 108 June 11, 2013 at 8:38 am | |

      Yeah…gravatar’s telling me I have registered to wordpress, as anon 108 (or someone else has), but won’t let me sign in with the email and pw I use here. I re-set my pw and tried both my emails (in case I’d misremembered whcih one I’d used) but still couldn’t sign in. And so forth.

      Thanks anyway!

  25. sudhana
    sudhana June 11, 2013 at 8:16 am | |

    Is the audio version coming in the next 60 days, Brad? You know, I’m too lazy to read…

  26. Fred
    Fred June 11, 2013 at 8:42 am | |

    “In fact, this morning it was listed as number 1 whatever the category it is put in.”

    #1 in the all purpose, all embracing, omnipresent, all encompassing, always
    present yet not category

  27. Fred
    Fred June 11, 2013 at 8:52 am | |

    Adam Fisher’s review:

    “Zen is alive; Christianity is alive; toothpaste is alive; God is alive … and alive does not mean bitch-slap dead.”

  28. ch
    ch June 11, 2013 at 8:58 am | |

    Will you be selling copies of the book at the event? Is there any advantage for you if you sell it first hand vs through a website?

  29. Alan Sailer
    Alan Sailer June 11, 2013 at 8:59 am | |

    I am too lazy to give Brad’s new book a proper review. Mostly because I type at about ten words a minute.

    I do find it to be quite good.

    I still like Hardcore Zen for it’s more in-your-face attitude and Sit Down and Shut Up for it’s focus on Dogen.

    But I will be going back to this one again. It’s a very worthwhile book. I think the more serious tone fits a discussion of God.

    Cheers.

  30. Fred
    Fred June 11, 2013 at 9:45 am | |

    from Buddha is the Center of Gravity:

    “The more deeply you realize the basis of the world, the
    more deeply you realize that the human world is historical.
    In Buddhism that world is called the world of cause and effect.
    The world of God or Buddha is beyond the historical world.
    There is no cause and effect in the world of Buddha. When
    cause and effect cease to function, the human world ceases
    to exist.”

    (Said the old fox)

    1. sri_barence
      sri_barence June 11, 2013 at 2:05 pm | |

      I found a book on Scribd called, “Buddha is the Center of Gravity,” by Joshu Sasaki Roshi. The book is in free, downloadable PDF form. Is this the book everyone has been talking about? Here is the link. http://www.scribd.com/doc/116080955/Joshu-Sasaki-Roshi-Buddha-is-the-Center-of-Gravity

  31. Mumbles
    Mumbles June 11, 2013 at 2:37 pm | |

    My turn to compliment your good taste, Harlan.

    http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0303348/

  32. DanJ
    DanJ June 11, 2013 at 8:04 pm | |

    Brad, I really enjoyed the spree cast you did tonight even with all the glitches! I think it’s a really good way to connect with people and allow an opportunity for us to interact with you. I’ll be looking forward to the next book release party pt.2

  33. mtto
    mtto June 11, 2013 at 8:38 pm | |

    http://www.spreecast.com/events/brad-warner-talk-june-15-2013

    Brad’s talk this Saturday will be streamed on spreecast. 11:15am, California time.

    1. mtto
      mtto June 12, 2013 at 4:04 pm | |

      Brad can’t make it on Saturday, so the spreecast is canceled.

  34. Mark Foote
    Mark Foote June 11, 2013 at 9:24 pm | |

    “Manora asked Vasubandhu, ‘What is the enlightenment of the Buddha?’ Vasubandu sqaid, ‘It is the original nature of the mind.’ Manora then asked, ‘What is the original nature of the mind?’ Vashubandhu said, ‘It is the emptiness of the elements of sense faculties, sense consciousness, sense data.” (Denkoroku)

    Meanwhile, on another planet:

    ‘The empty hand grasps the hoe-handle
    Walking along I ride the ox
    The ox crosses the wooden bridge
    The bridge is flowing, the water is still

    (“Zen’s Chinese Heritage”, Andy Ferguson, pg 2)

    “The ox crosses the wooden bridge” describes an effect of the rhythm of stretch and activity as the weight of the entire body rests in the ligaments that connect the sacrum and pelvis: each step of an ox on a wooden bridge reverberates to the headtop and throughout the body of any rider, from the spine to the surface of the skin, and the same is true for the individual whose weight rests in three directions between the sacrum and pelvis.

    The phrase “the bridge is flowing” could be said to describe a moment before sleep when the location of awareness seems to shift in place in the body, while “the water is still” could describe the cessation of volitive activity in the body at that same moment. For most people, the loss of volitive control in the activity of the body is associated with falling, and as a consequence many people experience a “hypnic jerk” or sudden muscular contraction as they begin to fall asleep. Fuxi suggests that an awareness that shifts location freely in the body can come about as a matter of course, as the ability to feel informs the sense of location and the weight of the relaxed body generates stretch and activity in the movement of breath. He depicts a process of gradual stages whereby a muscular contraction is avoided, at the moment when a shift in the location of awareness with a cessation of volitive activity registers in the sub-consciousness.’ Mark quotes himself, of course.

    “Furthermore, though perception and awareness may have no traces, sound, form, and motion cannot have boundaries… This mind has no borders, no boundaries, no sides or surfaces. Therefore the eye basically does not apprehend anything, forms and colors cannot divide. Is it not that faculties, consciousness, and data of sense are all empty?” more contagion of the lamp

    ‘Although Fuxi outlines the stages of a process, and the process may be said to be gradual, the transition from a waking state to a state between waking and sleeping must be said to be sudden, marked by a sense of location that can shift and a cessation of any voluntary activity in the body.’ more from Mr. Mark

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6wNOgB0EF0U

    1. Alan Sailer
      Alan Sailer June 12, 2013 at 11:26 am | |

      Mark,

      I have been thinking about asking you this question for some time.

      I have never at any point in over five years of daily sitting been in any sort of hypnotic, hypnic or any other state between awake or dreaming while sitting zazen.

      Yet from your writing I get that feeling that you believe such a state is an essential part of (at least) your practice.

      I can’t deny that such states might be a part of practice. But to me emphasizing them as important “might” be going down the path of trying to identify what is or isn’t zazen.

      Which then seems like trying to push zazen into a container which can’t possibly hold it.

      Or am I misunderstanding what you are trying to say?

      Cheers.

  35. Fred
    Fred June 12, 2013 at 4:32 am | |

    “It is the emptiness of the elements of sense faculties, sense consciousness, sense data”

    “The empty hand grasps the hoe-handle
    Walking along I ride the ox
    The ox crosses the wooden bridge
    The bridge is flowing, the water is still”

    “Truth is a pathless land” – Krishnamurti

    However “one” arrives at the Truth, be it Zen, Advaita, Sufism, Godism, etc.,
    can it be expressed in language?

    The emptiness of sense consciousness is the thinking of non-thinking, the
    experience of non-conceptual being. Except there is no “one” doing the experiencing.

    The bridge is flowing, the water is still.

  36. Mumbles
    Mumbles June 12, 2013 at 10:10 am | |

    “The bridge is flowing…”

    http://t4america.org/resources/bridges/overview/

  37. Mark Foote
    Mark Foote June 12, 2013 at 3:11 pm | |

    very funny, Mr. Mumbles. Thanks Fred; you guys both pick me up, along with many of the other regulars of this thread, and I appreciate it.

    Alan, the point you make is Dogen’s famous question enroute to China, is it not- if everyone already has Buddha-nature, why practice? If shikantaza is “just hit sit”, as you could stretch Kobun’s remarks to conclude, then why offer instructions to folks who are thinking of taking up zazen as a practice?

    Well, many teachers don’t offer any instruction. The standard is to mutter something about attending to the breath without any context or explanation, and then move on. Right?

    What I am saying is that if you take up a cross-legged posture for any length of time, or a pose like “single-whip” in Tai-Chi, you discover that there is stretch and activity in the movement of breath, and you discover that there is some kind of relationship between the stretch and activity necessary to breath and awareness.

    Do you have to know that these relationships exist in order to experience them? No. Is there a reason to accurately describe these relationships?

    Let me give you an example. You are hiking in the Sierras. It’s beautiful, and your senses are alive. Everyone out hiking in the Sierras this day is going to experience something like that, hopefully. You have a compass, you have a topo map. If you know where you are, you can use the compass and the map to pick landmarks that you see in your surroundings, so that you can avoid walking in circles.

    You don’t have to want to go anywhere in particular, to want to avoid walking in circles. For me, the idea is to recognize and accept that stretch and involuntary activity are a natural part of the movement of breath, and so in fact is discernment with regard to the senses and the experience of distinction of the senses, all of which like our compass and map example begins with where I am. Try it when you’re falling asleep, instead of when you’re trying to be enlightenment awake (TM), and you may find that where you are is moving even when your body is not; that is what the piece in the Denkoroku was referring to, in my estimation.

  38. Mark Foote
    Mark Foote June 12, 2013 at 3:39 pm | |

    Reread your question, I’m a little off-topic as usual.

    I emphasize that a state between waking and sleeping exists, and is as close as the necessity in the movement of breath at the moment, to remind myself that where I am is where I find myself.

    Best I can do. Apologies for speaking off point.

  39. Alan Sailer
    Alan Sailer June 12, 2013 at 3:57 pm | |

    Mark,

    Thanks for the commentary.

    I will be quite honest when I say that I just can’t understand a lot of what you are saying.

    Which is neither here nor there.

    Quite simply I don’t notice anything about my zazen that is the least bit like falling asleep or dream-like. Or mysterious in any way shape or form.

    My zazen is a confused muddled mess, sometimes sharp and alert, but mostly just chasing thoughts around until I notice, set them aside and return to what is right in front of me.

    Which generally lasts for less than a minute until I spin off on another thought tangent.

    The only analogy you offer that I think that I understand is the part about offering a compass and map.

    Which I seriously doubt is possible. Everyones internal territory is unique, I don’t see how anything other than direct experience could provide a map.

    And that map would also have to be completely fluid, changing as time and circumstances change…

    Incidentally, both of the people who showed me how to sit spent almost no time describing the mental side of sitting. They both spend time describing the physical posture, but that’s about it.

    My current opinion (hah!) is that zen teachers are in the position of trying to describe what a strawberry tastes like to someone who has never seen or tasted a strawberry.

    Red, sweet, fruity, juicy,seeds yada-yada-yada.

    All they can do is point you in the direction of the nearest strawberry patch and gently encourage you. Everything else is up to me.

    Cheers.

  40. Mark Foote
    Mark Foote June 12, 2013 at 4:05 pm | |

    lied:

    I can also say that my sense of where I am may shift, even though my body does not. I emphasize that a state between waking and sleeping exists, and is as close as the necessity in the movement of breath at the moment, to open myself to the state of mind that supports movement in the location of awareness.

  41. Mark Foote
    Mark Foote June 12, 2013 at 4:16 pm | |

    Alan, did you see Waking Up and Falling Asleep?

    Yes, you are right, I’m talking about a physical experience of the location of awareness. Right in front of your nose, no wait it’s in your hand, back in your chest, where is it. Close your eyes, where is here? does it hold still? Can you keep breathing without here shifting? Where was here when you came out of the trance of your thought? Maybe in your head, maybe not.

    Ok, I’m talking about the juxtaposition of the sense of equalibrium with the sense of proprioception and the sense of gravity. As in, here.

    That’s what I’m talking about, and you might have to lie in bed at four in the morning trying to get back to sleep before you can be relaxed enough and at the same time alert enough to follow where your awareness is in-between waking and sleeping. Can’t be “done”.

    Can be open to here moving, the state of mind where here is moving; involves all the senses, and a rhythm in the necessity of breath.

  42. Mumbles
    Mumbles June 12, 2013 at 4:26 pm | |

    Speaking of “neither here or there…”

    The initial experience seemed like that old woodcut image of a wizard breaking through one world into the next, knowing there is no end to the breaking through, however, instead of this being a relief it was more of an exasperating experience as if there is no way out of here (wherever we are at any given moment in space/time, although that locale is debatable in and of itself)…Spiritual yes in the sense that the old paradigm of there being promise of a “better” place to go, or at least another place or whatever, the sense of present location in relation to that… is long long gone. So this consciousness that works through the senses of the body and writes to you now is truly without locality, it resides nowhere/everywhere and always has. When Adyi, Nisargadatta, etc. talk of an Absolute being other than this right here now (wherever that is, dependent on immediately shifting circumstances) –that it is “elsewhere” does not refer to its whereabouts but to its being unknowable (via the senses). Does this unknowingness know it is not knowing itself unless and until it arrives via consciousness? If that is the case, then at death there is dissolution into this unknowable Absolute without locality. This dis-locality is what I feel right now, set adrift even while in the body, if I can conceptualize that properly, or rather, with the firm conviction I had before when I said “in the body.” Where was I?
    Anyway, you get the picture, I can’t find any old maps through myths, fairytales, legends, etc. to approximate this other than a gnostic entrapment in the body that requires death to realize it, but, as I said, it’s here now, don’t have to die to get it.

    “Die before you die.” -Mohammad

  43. Mark Foote
    Mark Foote June 12, 2013 at 4:42 pm | |

    Mumbles, that is like:

    “Furthermore, though perception and awareness may have no traces, sound, form, and motion cannot have boundaries… This mind has no borders, no boundaries, no sides or surfaces. Therefore the eye basically does not apprehend anything, forms and colors cannot divide. Is it not that faculties, consciousness, and data of sense are all empty?”

    is it not?

    back to say, thanks, Alan.

  44. Mumbles
    Mumbles June 12, 2013 at 6:29 pm | |

    empty of…? And what does “empty” mean?? Is it not subjective, much like Alan described above…”Everyones internal territory is unique…”

    and continued…

    “I don’t see how anything other than direct experience could provide a map.”

    But a map of an experience of no location is inconceivable.

  45. vanMeerdervoort
    vanMeerdervoort June 13, 2013 at 7:53 am | |

    Another great book :)
    Thanks Brad, from the Netherlands (at least from one person there hehe)

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