White Buddhist tells Singhalese Buddhists about Buddhism / Philly Debut!

SickestBuddhistThis coming Saturday I will make my debut into Philadelphia society! All y’all who keep saying, “When are you gonna do something in Philly?” are required to be there. Here are the details.

SATURDAY MAY 3, 2014 10:30 AM

MONKEY MIND ZENDO (operating out of Studio 34) 4522 Baltimore Ave., Philadelphia, PA 19143.

The program will begin with 20-25 minutes of chanting in Korean (Monkey Mind is part of Seung Sahn’s Korean Kwan Um Zen lineage), followed by 30 minutes of zazen, a short break and then a talk by me. I’m also hoping to meet and talk with those interested in helping me set up a stable and regular sitting group here in Philadelphia. So if you want to help with that, come on by!

Also happening in Philly, on MAY 21, 2014 at 6:30 pm the film BRAD WARNER’S HARDCORE ZEN will have its Philadelphia premiere at Drexel University! I will do a Q&A after the screening. I’ll announce the exact location once I get it.

The film will also play in Cleveland at the Cleveland Buddhist Temple on May 17th, 2014 at 6:30pm. I’ll do a Q&A afterwards and there is talk of Zero Defex doing a short performance before the film.

Also, you can still sign up for our 3-DAY ZEN & YOGA RETREAT at Mt. Baldy near Los Angeles, CA May 9-11, 2014. Cushions are going fast, so book now if you want in! I will be there and offering dokusan (private consultations) to anyone who attends.

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Last week I read a story about a British woman who was deported from Sri Lanka for having a tattoo of Buddha. I tweeted a link to the story adding, “Anyone who thinks a tattoo of Buddha is offensive doesn’t understand anything the Buddha ever said.”

Most of the responses I got were pretty positive. But a few people objected. A guy on Twitter said, “White Buddhist tells Singhalese Buddhists about Buddhism.”

It’s the prevailing attitude among certain folks that those of the white, privileged West shouldn’t arrogantly impose our attitudes upon other cultures.  The days when our Western attitudes were considered more advanced and therefore better than the primitive ways of other peoples are over. And we certainly should not feel entitled to steal ideas from those cultures, change them around, make them our own, and then come back and tell those cultures the “right” way to do the things they came up with in the first place.

Generally I would agree with that sentiment.

My Twitter friend appears to believe that my sentiments represent those of an arrogant, over-privileged American telling people who have been steeped in Buddhism for thousands of years what their religion is really about. How dare I?

But does the mere fact of being an American Buddhist really make one less qualified to say what Buddhism is actually about? If we were to follow that line of thinking to its logical conclusion, then I, as a person who grew up in a Christian country, would be more qualified to speak about the true meaning of Jesus’ life than a Singhalese Catholic monk who spent thirty years studying and practicing Christianity.

Having lived a large portion of my life outside of the United States, as a child in Kenya and an adult in Japan, it seems to me that people all over the world are very much alike, often in surprising ways. The kinds of Buddhists who find tattoos of Buddha offensive or who attack their neighbors for being of the wrong religion are pretty much the equivalent of American Christians who think Jesus had blond hair and blue eyes and hated homosexuals. They don’t know any more about Buddhism than our homegrown reactionary, racist “Christians” know what Jesus’ message was about.

I think it is perfectly reasonable for those of us who know better about what the Buddha taught – whether Asian or not – to take these folks to task, and to shame them for using their woeful misunderstanding of the Buddha Way as a justification for acting like assholes. The same as I would accept a Sri Lankan Christian shaming Americans who used Christianity as excuse for intolerant violence and just plain ridiculousness.

Simply growing up in a culture in which most people answer “Buddhist” when asked what religion they follow does not automatically qualify a person to explain what Buddhism is really about. Most Japanese people I knew when I lived in Tokyo knew far less about Buddhism than I did.

I was surprised by this at first. But as I continued to live in Japan, learn more Japanese, and become more attuned to the culture, it dawned on me that it made perfect sense that I would know way more about Buddhism than they did. I’d spent a significant proportion of my life studying and practicing it and they hadn’t. It had nothing at all to do with what race I was or where I was born. People who study and practice a thing know more about it than those who don’t. That’s just how life works.

This begs another question about whether Western Buddhism is more or less legitimate than Asian Buddhism. This question, which used to come up all the time when I first started practicing Zen in the early 80s, seems to be less important to people I meet these days. In fact, once I was accused by someone on the Internets of not being a legit Zen teacher because I was ordained in Japan! That was an interesting turn around, I thought. Because back when I started it was the teachers who were ordained by fellow Westerners who were considered somehow less legit.

When people ask me about the differences between Buddhism in Japan and in the US and Europe, I usually tell them that in the US or Europe you’re far more likely to be able to walk into a Buddhist center and actually start practicing Buddhism than you are in Japan. Japanese Buddhists, by and large, are far less interested in meditation, which is the core of what the Buddha taught, than Buddhists in the West.

But I think this is what usually happens when Buddhism travels from one country to another. The Chinese Buddhists brought meditation back into Buddhism when Buddhists in India had largely abandoned it, the Korean and Japanese Buddhists brought meditation back into Buddhism when the Chinese had largely abandoned it, and now we in the West are bringing meditation back at a time when the Japanese, Koreans, Vietnamese, Sri Lankan and other cultures we’re getting our traditions from have largely abandoned it.

I think those of us in the West who are deeply interested in Buddhism also tend to understand Buddhist philosophy better than the average Asian who tends to assume they know all about Buddhism because they’ve grown up around it. It’s a bit like how some of our most hardcore Christians in the US don’t know much about what’s actually in the Bible.

A Pew Forum survey showed that agnostics and atheists in American tend to know more about the Bible than those who call themselves Christians. That’s because atheists and agnostics don’t just assume they know. They go look the stuff up! It’s the same with Western Buddhists. We don’t have any reason to assume we know what the Buddha said just because we’ve been raised around a miasma of mixed up misquotations and folk sayings wrongly attributed to the Buddha – the same as American Christians often think that things from Dante’s Inferno and Shakespeare are part of the Bible.

Tattoos of the Buddha are not offensive to anyone who really understand the Buddha. That’s all there is to that.

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Your donations are always gratefully accepted!

I will be hosting a five-day zazen retreat at Benediktushof in Germany (near Wurzburg) October 12-17, 2014. Contact Benediktushof directly to ask about registration.

I am going to be in Norway from Sept. 24 to 28, Finland from Oct. 3 to 5, the Netherlands from Oct. 24 to 29 and the UK sometime after that. I do not have details yet. But I do have a few large gaps in my schedule that I’d like to fill. They are:



I’m talking to some folks in Munich about doing something there during one of these weeks. I’d really like to set something up in Berlin one of those weeks as well. If you’re interested in helping me set that stuff up, please write to me at bw@hardcorezen.info and we’ll get to work on it. It doesn’t have to be Munich or Berlin!


Sometimes a movie is made to tour.

Are you interested in seeing HARDCORE ZEN with your local community? Would you like Brad Warner to speak at your university, meditation group, or personal guests?

Now you can have both. The film will screen at a location at your discretion. Simply contact booking@bradwarnershardcorezen.com with the following specifics: your location, contact info, and potential date for the event.




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  1. Fred
    Fred April 30, 2014 at 10:14 am |

    “Japanese Buddhists, by and large, are far less interested in meditation, which is the core of what the Buddha taught, than Buddhists in the West”

    What exactly would this meditation be?

  2. Mark Foote
    Mark Foote April 30, 2014 at 10:31 am |

    I think maybe it’s more like Adventists, no pictures. In the early days, as I understand it, the only images of Gautama that were accepted were images of his footprints.

    “The Chinese Buddhists brought meditation back into Buddhism when Buddhists in India had largely abandoned it, the Korean and Japanese Buddhists brought meditation back into Buddhism when the Chinese had largely abandoned it, and now we in the West are bringing meditation back at a time when the Japanese, Koreans, Vietnamese, Sri Lankan and other cultures we’re getting our traditions from have largely abandoned it.”

    Possibly a particular Buddhist brought an emphasis on meditation to China, do we know that nine years in front of a wall was the norm and whatever they were doing in India should be regarded as slacking off in the teaching of the Gautamid?
    China had some serious meditators at the time of Dogen, especially Dogen’s teacher there. Where’d ya get that part!

    I think they have continued to sit pretty good at Eiheiji and other training monasteries in Japan throughout, and there was Kodo Sawaki; generalizations about countries abandoning meditation (meaning seated meditation in a cross-legged pose), we’d have to say the general populace in these countries was never into it as a matter of course, although in some places it was forced like military service and so perhaps more widely accepted.

    On the other hand, I take the substance of your write in another regard. I wrote once to someone from Tricycle who had just completed years in Thailand about what I perceived to be the reconstitution of meditative practice there. By that I mean that there are teachers in Thailand who speak about the meditative states as described in the Pali Canon. My impression was and is that these teachers or their predecessors in the last two centuries had reconstituted the practice out of the texts, same as me; the living tradition had long since died out. My contact at Tricycle agreed with me (that makes it definitely true, don’t you think!).

    Zen has significance because the experience of all of the components of being alive in action is the emphasis; by definition, the phenomena of the hypnogogic states is a part of action in Zen, yet in the lineages of Bodhidharma the attainment of a unity of action has been emphasized over any science in the study. You can point to the cushion as the thing that societies drift away from and that you believe rightly becomes the emphasis again, but I would take the view that the arrival of the teaching of Gautama in the West is all about the interplay between the methodology of science and the description of the way of life of the Tathagatha that Gautama offered. The methodology of science offers the possibility of the miracle that Gautama prized above all others, and the only one that he sought to perform in his life; teaching.

  3. shade
    shade April 30, 2014 at 11:07 am |

    I’m confused. About this thing with the British ladies tattoo. Is this like, an issue of graven images? Was there something specific to the image itself that was offensive, or are all such pictorial representations considered taboo (like with the Muslims and Muhammad)? In that particular country I mean. Or is the fact that she was a foreigner the problem?

    1. Fred
      Fred April 30, 2014 at 1:03 pm |

      Brad, by meditation do you mean goaless practice seated on a cushion?

  4. CosmicBrainz
    CosmicBrainz April 30, 2014 at 3:16 pm |

    I agree with what you’re saying Brad.

    However, amongst some Pure Land Buddhists having a tattoo may be construed as sacrilegious. I’m not entirely certain, but it could be frowned upon for any number of reasons. In this case, it is less about race and more about social norms or whatever. In Zen, it doesn’t seem to matter.

    “They don’t know any more about Buddhism than our homegrown reactionary, racist “Christians” know what Jesus’ message was about.”

    While this is true in many cases, I have met hostile Christians and Muslims that knew their “holy texts” very well, but they only knew their own interpretations. I don’t think anyone’s interpretations of anything truly coincide. I think the problem is to cling to any interpretation of anything. Doubt is always essential, including for oneself, about all things.

    Race was never an important element in Buddhism. Race is just a social construct ultimately. Haplogroups and bone structure do not give a sufficient reason to accept the existence of racial categories. Epigenetics and neural plasticity show the body is more in a flux, and perhaps even definable by it, thereby making it difficult to rigidly categorize on in arbitrarily picked racial categories. I can make racial categories based off grey matter density in “x” region of the brain, for example… It’s “empty” and kinda nebulous.

  5. boubi
    boubi April 30, 2014 at 4:33 pm |

    She’s been lucky not to be beheaded !

    I know of some who have been killed for having made some little drawings in their own country, for having translated some bestsellers or having expressed themselves on “taboo” matters.

    Of some others who are “living” under police protection for having publicly said what is clearly wtitten on a few books.

    In some countries it is a crime to burn your own flag.

    1. CosmicBrainz
      CosmicBrainz April 30, 2014 at 4:50 pm |

      Nigger, I can see the insults your making indirectly of my country.

      I know of some who have been devoured by your shit kind.

      1. CosmicBrainz
        CosmicBrainz April 30, 2014 at 4:50 pm |


        You really pushed me to say it after all the arguments we’ve been through.

    2. CosmicBrainz
      CosmicBrainz April 30, 2014 at 4:53 pm |

      A nigger neoconservative… does not make a good mix…

      Is it okay if you quit with the fucking subtle attacks against my country everywhere? I know all your fucking references… immediately after my own comment too.

      Go shit around somewhere else, ape.

    3. CosmicBrainz
      CosmicBrainz April 30, 2014 at 4:59 pm |

      No one likes to be constantly berated.

      I understand you have some issues with the human rights violations of modern-day Iran but mentioning that everywhere, especially after my posts, as a way to berate and belittle me really pisses me off, especially when you’re not direct about it. It’s why I call you a fucking nigger because the only thing you’re good at is making me hostile. Would you seriously talk like this to me in real life? Constantly throwing the bad things about my country to make it come off as barbaric or something. You fucking nigger… I have never used this word before, but I reserve it for a piece of shit such as yourself.

      I know people who were imprisoned by a CIA controlled dictator. You don’t see me mentioning that everywhere, now do you?

    4. CosmicBrainz
      CosmicBrainz April 30, 2014 at 5:41 pm |

      Boubi, is it okay if you don’t try to subtly attempt to rile me up? I apologize for calling you nigger, but you have to understand, we have argued countlessly on this subject, and you then revealed your conservative/biased agenda in the past. Afterwards, after my present post, you mention the Salman Rushdie and murder of the Danish cartoonist (who drew Mohammad in a caricaturist way) as being representative of my culture and other people’s cultures – as if it has been backwards and intolerant to open expression for the majority of its history. I do not like such sly attacks that are not rooted in academic understanding of all the geopolitics and history involved in the current state of such countries. While it is fine to constructively criticize the human rights violations, doing it in the manner you did after my post, as a way to rile me up, is ridiculous. I know you did it for this purpose because of our past fiascos. We can differ and not see things eye to eye, but please refrain from being a childish prick.

  6. Daniel CosmicBrainz
    Daniel CosmicBrainz April 30, 2014 at 4:45 pm |

    Boubou !!!

  7. CosmicBrainz
    CosmicBrainz April 30, 2014 at 4:45 pm |

    “In some countries it is a crime to burn your own flag.”

    It’s a crime in America to do that too… You can be put in jail for that.

    You’re kind of slow…

    What did you get your degree in?

    1. CosmicBrainz
      CosmicBrainz April 30, 2014 at 4:49 pm |

      Nvm, it was legalized in 1989.

  8. CosmicBrainz
    CosmicBrainz April 30, 2014 at 4:59 pm |

    There’s one thing I dislike more than troll diatribes and waste of web space, and that is subtle attacks against a country or person’s integrity. Be direct with your words and don’t speak like a fucking politician.

  9. Fred
    Fred April 30, 2014 at 5:05 pm |

    “You’re kiiiiiiiind of sloooooooooooooooow”……….. bro


    1. minkfoot
      minkfoot April 30, 2014 at 6:01 pm |

      “I nailed a 45-minute meditation in ten!”

      I want him to teach me that! Then in 45 minutes I’d actually be doing . . . Wait a minute . . . 202.5 minutes credit in the Bodhi Ledger!

      1. Alan Sailer
        Alan Sailer May 1, 2014 at 6:42 am |

        “I nailed a 45-minute meditation in ten!”

        That’s nothing, I routinely nail a ten minute meditation in 45….


  10. Daniel CosmicBrainz
    Daniel CosmicBrainz April 30, 2014 at 5:05 pm |

    CB I am from the USA and have never communicated with anyone from your country. To give me perspective, would you consider listing say, your top 5 things about life in Iran? Seriously, I’m curious to hear!

    1. CosmicBrainz
      CosmicBrainz April 30, 2014 at 5:47 pm |

      Daniel CosmicBrainz,

      Both the Shah and the current regime are horrible. However, the former was supported by America and controlled by the CIA. The latter suppresses people’s creativity and freedom of expression though..

      In 1953, Mossadegh was democratically elected but overthrown. Google “Mossadegh Coup d’ etat”. The CIA has recently declassified it, but most academics and people were already well aware of how he was overthrown by Britain and USA because of nationalizing the oil reserves (OPEC was not happy with that). If he were to stay in power, Iran would be very strong. For example, right now it is #1 in Stem Cell research. You can Google that too. While the regime is oppressive, the people are intelligent, and you can see it in their history with people like Omar Khayyam, Al Khwarizmi, Rhazes, and Majid Samii (contemporary neurosurgeon).

      The reason I became very mean to Boubi is because he has countlessly attacked my country’s heritage in a jingoistic and conservative kind of way, completely ignorant of its heritage and history. He generalizes my whole country as being oppressive simply based off its current theocracy (which started in 1979 – prior to that it was a “Westernized” dictatorship because the Shah was controlled by CIA and lots of foreign immigrants lived on the land for business…) Boubi views all of Islam as being backwards and aggressive. I am not Muslim, but I can admit there have been times of flourishing under post-Islamic Iran. Pre-Islamic Iran was also cool (especially during Achaeminid times but not Sassanid).

      I called him “nigger” out of an outburst, and I did not mean the racist intentions. I apologize, but he really pisses me off.

  11. Daniel CosmicBrainz
    Daniel CosmicBrainz April 30, 2014 at 6:16 pm |

    CB, thank you for the information. I will google those names. I heard of the story of the Shah and I am frightened of the CIA. When I was 12 the hostage situation happened. The news here put Iran in a very bad light. I never thought badly of the Iranian people, however. It’s just that your culture is not really spoken of in our media, except in negative political terms – or that has been my exposure. However, in elementary school we were taught that your area of the world is the ‘cradle of civilization’, and I was fascinated that great cities, empires, scientists, artists, etc. existed there long before anything in my country. (Well of course the natives here had an amazing way of living, just not ‘hi-tech’).

    Yes the ‘N’ word. In my culture it is very bad to use it. It refers to a period of time here when people were kidnapped from their countries and brought here to be slaves. It is what the slave owners used to call these people. I would never use it because I would be too afraid to cause mental pain to someone who might read it – even if I wrote it to someone else. That’s the view from this country.

    Also, I really am sorry for using your name. That is my stupidity here. I will stop now and make a new name to post under: “The Idiot” ahaha 🙂

  12. The Idiot
    The Idiot April 30, 2014 at 6:21 pm |

    much better…

  13. CosmicBrainz
    CosmicBrainz April 30, 2014 at 7:04 pm |

    Daniel CosmicBrainz… I don’t know why you assume I was born in Iran or am currently residing in it… and stuff like that.

    I was born in America.

    I respect the people enough not to completely overgeneralized it into being jingoistic and etc. based off America’s horrendous foreign policy (e.g., Cambodia, Vietnam, Iraq, Nicaruga, the list goes on). The neo-conservatives and jingoistic people are not representative of a country’s heritage, values, and etc… Besides, you find lots of diverse viewpoints and so forth in the city versus elsewhere.

    I used the N word cause I was pushed. Boubi recently said I was “committing Taqiyya” even though I’m not Muslim… I mean, that’s pretty much the same thing he did.I mean he pretty much used something like the “N” word against me. Man, I didn’t even know what Taqiyya meant until I looked it up… It seems he gets all his info from poorly written books with political agendas.

    Anyways, like I have said elsewhere, I also like Ho Chi Minh. He was democratically selected in Vietnam but the French did not permit it.

  14. The Idiot
    The Idiot April 30, 2014 at 7:17 pm |

    Oops my mistake – at least my new name is accurate :0)

    Sorry for your difficulty with boubi :0(

    Seems pretty painful for you…

  15. Daniel CosmicBrainz
    Daniel CosmicBrainz April 30, 2014 at 8:28 pm |

    You are such an idiot!

  16. Mark Foote
    Mark Foote April 30, 2014 at 9:27 pm |

    Link Ray’s rumble is taking over my personality. Thanks a lot, mr. mumbles.


  17. Mark Foote
    Mark Foote April 30, 2014 at 9:42 pm |

    the Long Lost Buddhist Palm:


  18. Andy
    Andy May 1, 2014 at 1:38 am |

    Wow Cosmic, that was painful to read.

    Boubi didn’t ‘push’ you to write a single word. You’re an intelligent guy, so it shouldn’t take much to see that that line of justification is a self-harming dead-end. Whose power is it – Boubi’s?

    Your arguments with boubi were characterized by boubi openly expressing contempt for you and your positions. Boubi’s largely satirical wind-ups, though, did not appear to me to be racist beyond what might bee gleaned, rightly or wrongly, beyond inferences one might draw from her/his presentations of an argument or choice of words, but were, rather aimed at mocking your own pronouncements. I am not defending boubi, just pointing out that your accusations of racism on the part of boubi are accusations based on your interpretation of boubi’s words, whereas you have been very ‘direct’ in making reductive generalizations about national, ethnic or sectarian groups yourself and with the full force of your pain and anger.

    Cussing in such a way can be very harmful. Such cursing stays with the person and can truly curse them. It can create a psychic conflict between the freight of someone’s investment in the curse and the actual causes that expressed themselves in that way and the freight of that person’s investment in how wrong and damaging it is when feeling the force of another’s cursing on themselves and towards others. If this becomes chronic we can get emotionally ‘defended’ souls: the anti-racist making racial slurs, the anti-authoritarian imposing their views on others, the white-knighting sexist, the homophobe giving it rough to someone in a sauna etc. If there is any excuse for saying ‘nigger’ in such a way, then you are, in effect, excusing your enemy for the same – a conflict of interests for the psyche which can never sit well and will produce moments where the curtain flinches open to reveal the warts n all portrait.

    Of course, Iran is not ‘your’ country. It is a part of your heritage you clearly care about deeply. I understand that, as an Iranian/Persian American, you must have grown up post 911, experiencing some rough times that have caused lasting pain. You have said as much yourself, and I have some experience with Pakistani Muslim friends who have also experienced similar things, for similar reasons, and who also draw, sometimes unevenly, sometimes creatively, sometimes dangerously from the contrasts and ambiguities of such dual self-identification.

    One of the most harmful consequences of abuse is that it creates abusers who can’t tolerate the feelings that come from being seen, and seeing themselves, in the same light as those who harmed them.

    Do you think that it is at least possible that I might have a point here, or am I just being another one of those baddies who needs to eat shit and die?

    Eat shit and die is a figurative construction, so really I’ve already eaten shit and died many times over. One of the areas in which I need to grow and change is where I can’t tolerate or accept what the ‘shit’ really stands for, where I still could do with allowing that part of myself to ‘die’.

    It can be very difficult, because we’re wired up to act in such a manner to an actual turd thrust in our faces, and the abstract identification with an actual turd can make it seem like we’re merely acting out of natural instinct to protect and care for ourselves, which can lead us to justify, defend and thus persist in our own shitty behaviour. And I imagine that to people more balanced and sensitive than I in those areas where I need to mature or become more healthy can often see it better than I, even if, when I choose to see it, there is no-one else who could see it better.

    Like the therapist’s slogan goes: What we resist persists.

    And though it is like this, it is only that flowers, while loved, fall; and weeds while hated, flourish..

    1. Fred
      Fred May 1, 2014 at 4:58 am |


  19. boubi
    boubi May 1, 2014 at 3:28 am |

    Hi darling

    Feel grumpy today? As usual?

    Forget about it !

    Just zap it !

    A zap to the brain makes you think people are more attractive

  20. boubi
    boubi May 1, 2014 at 3:43 am |

    Now, from a more analytical point of view.

    You called me bitch, nigger, you told me to die, to get killed in a car accident, to go sucking some cocks (i started to, but i ended up chewing …), you’ve been rambling utter violent nonsense for some time.

    Could you tell me what could be wrong in being a “bitch” or a “nigger”?

    Were if not that you are a racist, misogynistic, homophobic tiny willy frustrated violent dangerous white boy?

    You just showed how much you are out of your brain, plainly hallucinating, deranged, with profound personallity problems (daddy …), with an enflated ego and a clear perception of your inadeguacy, haunted by conspirations from CIA and governments, where only übermensch like you (and Bruce Lee) can see the truth.

    Would it be another person i would be sorry for him, not for you.

    You are just a ticking bomb, waiting to explode. And you will sooner or later, someone will put a leading hand on your shoulder, and off you go … boooom !

    You’re a sicko, deranged, borderline social threat.

  21. boubi
    boubi May 1, 2014 at 3:54 am |

    On how the boy is hallucinating

    Let’s analyse the text first.

    I know of some who have been killed for having made some little drawings in their own country,
    See, Mohamad cartoons, Denmark, Europe, not Iran

    for having translated some bestsellers or
    Japan, not Iran

    having expressed themselves on “taboo” matters.
    Sudan, Egypt, not Iran

    Of some others who are “living” under police protection for having publicly said what is clearly wtitten on a few books.
    France etc, not Iran

    In some countries it is a crime to burn your own flag.
    Google it and find the list

    Now wacko boy, keeping his holy quest, went on hallucinating.

    Your own business, you got issues, get into a padded room, straightjacketed and get medications.

    Zap ! Zap! Zap it boy !

    1. boubi
      boubi May 1, 2014 at 4:03 am |

      Sweety, you can find it here without wrecking your sorry brain


  22. boubi
    boubi May 1, 2014 at 3:59 am |

    For the normal people.

    Seems strange that no Thai has ever been stopped at the border

    or at least that it never hit the medias.

  23. boubi
    boubi May 1, 2014 at 4:15 am |

    Maybe getting in touch with some black women rights organisation would to sue this wacko would help …

    It is important that dangerous and racist people like you are stopped and put in some kind of legal limitation
    – bitch
    – nigger
    – die
    – get killed
    – etc

    You’re out of your depth kiddo.

  24. boubi
    boubi May 1, 2014 at 4:29 am |

    “N” wording according to your blog’s psycho

    Nigger, I can see the insults your making indirectly of my country.

    A nigger neoconservative… does not make a good mix…

    It’s why I call you a fucking nigger

    You fucking nigger… I have never used this word before, but I reserve it for a piece of shit such as yourself.

    I apologize for calling you nigger, but you have to understand
    what? that you are a bloody racist! This yes, it’s understood.

    I called him “nigger” out of an outburst, and I did not mean the racist intentions. “Of course not” 😉 ,that’s why you used a racist insult

    Maybe this org could know how to deal with lil’ psycho übermensch here

    1. boubi
      boubi May 1, 2014 at 4:34 am |

      You’ll tell them about your Iranian friends going to rip them to shreds* … i count on it psycho.


  25. Fred
    Fred May 1, 2014 at 5:01 am |

    Good stuff. Highly entertaining.

  26. boubi
    boubi May 1, 2014 at 5:03 am |

    Have a look out of your window … any “nigger” lurking in the shadows, waiting to do you harm, attent at your “aryanhood”, your manhood, your sense of superiority, your übermenschood.

    Weird cracking sounds at night?

    People watching you?

  27. boubi
    boubi May 1, 2014 at 5:32 am |

    To be IGNORED by demented racists and other sociopaths

    One question is :
    Could it be that that famous feeling, some call “God” is just the absence of all that crap that clutters the brain/mind/whatever? What emerges could just the release at no having to listen to all that inner talk show?
    Body position could help in the beginning in excluding body stimulation too?

    Second question to Michel :
    Thank you for the links to the “origins of Soto”, why do you think (leaving alone that overwordy hallucinating fool of Derida) that for the same thing, they of olds, came up with 3 wordings for the same thing?

    Sunyata, tathata and another one?

    Just to confuse people?

    Until i followed your link i was kind of lost (for the little i cared to say the truth) in some ptolemaic contorted space mechanics, you know where planets were going in weird loops, and all of a sudden things fall in place. Thanks.

    Beyond the fact that the matter is non speakable (scratching my head), so why all those volumes of words?
    For being a more advanced an learned person, do you have any idea?

  28. Hoetsu
    Hoetsu May 1, 2014 at 7:11 am |

    Let me get my comment in before comments are closed down —

    Sri Lanka has Issues. Sri Lanka was (all or in part) a European colony for more than five centuries, and Buddhism was treated very badly and sometimes brutally by the colonial overlords and the Christian missionary auxiliaries. So when a British tourist gets bounced for having a Buddha tattoo, one suspects there is more going on there than just Buddhism. As an unfortunate side effect of their independence movement, Buddhism got mixed into Sinhalese ethnic and national identity, and this is turning out to be unhealthy.

    Ironically, there once was a White Buddhist who told the Sinhalese about Buddhism. His name was Henry Steel Olcott, and he was a former New York lawyer and U.S. Civil War veteran. He helped spark a revival of Buddhism in the late 19th century and even opened Buddhist schools and wrote a Buddhist catechism. Seriously. And the Sinhalese called him the White Buddhist. I understand there’s a big statue of him in Colombo.

    1. minkfoot
      minkfoot May 1, 2014 at 3:46 pm |

      Thanks for the added view, B.O’B.

      So easy to form opinions on the apparent and incomplete.

  29. CosmicBrainz
    CosmicBrainz May 1, 2014 at 7:14 am |

    “rather aimed at mocking your own pronouncements”

    No one likes to be mocked, hence the racist slurs.

    Yeah, I really am committing Taqiyya, alright… haha.

  30. CosmicBrainz
    CosmicBrainz May 1, 2014 at 7:18 am |

    I also do not like being told to have deep brain stimulation or put chips that periodically stimulate my brain… OFTEN.

    Boubi has been just as much as a dick to me than I have been to him.

    Saying I am committing Taqiyya in a condescending and rude way is just as bad as calling someone a n-word, and then constantly harassing the person in a privileged “authority given” way by giving imprecise and poor diagnoses is just as offensive as using the n-word.

    Also… you guys do tend to use the n-word amongst each other… And when I was boxing, we would all call each other the n-word. So yeah… nigga.

  31. jiesen
    jiesen May 1, 2014 at 7:20 am |

    In my opinion, there is no culture, and no ending of culture.

    Personally, I’d shut this down dude. I can’t see any good becoming of it.

  32. CosmicBrainz
    CosmicBrainz May 1, 2014 at 7:26 am |

    Saying I am committing Taqiyya, even though I’m not Muslim, is just bad as calling me a “sand n-word”. I find it hypocritical that people jump up and down when I call Boubi the n-word, but it’s totally okay for him to mock me and say things that could be construed as offensive to Muslims…

    Also, when I have generalized and reduced an entire country? I never did that. I just said it wouldn’t be so bad if global power shifted to BRIC countries and Boubi took that to mean I am an angsty, prejudiced person. What a bunch of ***. I don’t like being told to get stuff like deep brain stimulation, therapy, or etc. due to my ideological leanings. Ideology is not synonymous to how one conducts his or her behavior in public and so forth.

    To tell you the truth, I think it would have made more sense if I called Boubi the n-word after he condescendingly said I am committing Taqiyya, which made him get off-topic, when I gave my opinion elsewhere.

    I’m not too drawn into this drama to go find the specific. I am at school and busy. I genuinely do not like Boubi though and hope he dies in a car accident or something.

  33. The Idiot
    The Idiot May 1, 2014 at 7:52 am |

    Check out this awesome movie: Luz de la Mission (1998)

    “Luz is a good person who is very angry inside. Luz thinks he is angry at certain people, but really that anger is from something earlier in his life that is difficult for him to face. So he directs his anger at the people he interacts with today. The reason why the anger from earlier in Luz’s life is difficult for him to face is that he was humiliated by someone. They had power over him and they treated him disrespectfully. Luz will suffer his entire life with this if he is not able to face the origins of the anger and shame he carries.”

  34. Andy
    Andy May 1, 2014 at 9:20 am |

    CosmicBrainz wrote: “rather aimed at mocking your own pronouncements”

    No one likes to be mocked, hence the racist slurs.

    Yeah, I really am committing Taqiyya, alright… haha.


    No one likes to be mocked, yes. Does that give you a blank cheque on your reaction? No. You know this.

    Racist slurs are not just about the person directly abused. It harms you and it harms all of us.

    Your intention wasn’t merely an exchange of insults. Your intention was full of a violence and anger that predates any real or imagined slight on here.

    With your expertise in neuroscience, I would find it hard to believe that you are unfamiliar with the notion of being psychologically ‘defended’. Are you the only human being free of the possibility that you might be in thrall to what this notion points at? There is no shame in being affected by something that many highly intelligent, sensitive and introspective people fall into; no shame, but that which is horded up by psychic bully boy watching over any attempt to heal or to be reached out to.

    If you don’t like what I have written above or are suspicious of my narcissistic intentions, then please be kind in your response and consider that we all could do with some help.

    1. Andy
      Andy May 1, 2014 at 9:25 am |

      Just to make clear: by ‘psychic bully-boy’ I mean that which functions to protect turned against a person – not you as a person, Cosmic, who would be the sufferer.

  35. gav
    gav May 1, 2014 at 9:47 am |

    Wow, impressive train wreck in progress…

    I found this article rather informative:


    “According to reports, she was harassed by the police who solicited bribes, then brought before a magistrate who ordered her deportation without explaining the charges or giving her the opportunity to defend herself. ”

    “it turns out the reaction of Sri Lankan authorities in the case of the British tourist had more to do with connivance between a taxi driver and the police for the purpose of harassing her in order to extract a bribe, than anything to do with moral outrage over her Buddha tattoo. “It is this state of lawlessness that should alarm everyone,” said the Asian Human Rights Commission. The rights group’s statement also deplored the conduct of the magistrate, whom it described as a pawn of the police.”

    So is this really about buddhism & “graven images” or respect for other cultures? I’m not so sure.

  36. CosmicBrainz
    CosmicBrainz May 1, 2014 at 9:49 am |

    I have acknowledged my rashness numerous times.

    However, if you keep patronizing me without even taking a second to consider Boubi’s actions, from an ethical viewpoint, then you are hypocrite.

    Why do you keep patronizing me? Why have you never told Boubi to calm down with his insults directed to me? For example, couldn’t saying I have ‘commited taqiyya’ be construed as just as offensive as using the N-word? This dude basically called a mullah numerous times just because I defended Islam and said there were secular time periods in Persia such as 800-1200 AD and Safavid Empire. I acknowledge responding with violence and anger isn’t the way to go, but you constantly place the WHOLE responsibility/blame on my shoulders!

    Do you just want to make me burden some guilt or something? Do you want me to speak more meekly while Boubi continues to bash my heritage? Do you want me to sit idly while Boubi continues yo over-generalize a country with a history as long as 8000 years just on the basis of contemporary fundamentalists?

    Like I’ve said, I’m not the only one who would be having problems when Boubi is condemning my country’s heritage and likening it to the current fundamentalists.

    the truth is, i became very pissed off when he said i committed taqiyya, and i let that influence my judgment now

  37. Alan Sailer
    Alan Sailer May 1, 2014 at 10:55 am |

    I was on a trip this week and during my stay in a hotel room I got a chance to watch television (which is rare for me).

    I saw the John Stewart show and most of the program was about the racist comments made by a Nevada rancher and the owner of a basketball team. The comments were really bad and deserved the satire and mocking directed their way.

    However, watching the show did leave me with a lingering sense of unease. It took me until the next day to understand the source of that unease.

    It turns out that a lot of the satisfaction I get from hearing about really egregious racism, sexism, etc is that it allows me to congratulate myself for not being quite so nasty.

    I suspect that the feelings I get from reading the back and forth between CosmicBrainz and boubi is the same sort of thing.

    Kind of sad to figure that out.


  38. Mark Foote
    Mark Foote May 1, 2014 at 10:56 am |

    just substitute “ol’ Brad Warner’s blog” for “sad and lonesome times”– (some people just have too much fun sticking pins in dolls, even if it does turn out to be a doll with their own hair and toenail clippings on it)


  39. CosmicBrainz
    CosmicBrainz May 1, 2014 at 11:06 am |

    I think it’s more accurate to say Boubi was being exceedingly belligerent, chauvinistic, and xenophobic to me in the past, and his condescending insult of me “committing taqiyya” obscured my judgment and made me interpret his recent post, after my first one, as being a sly attack against my heritage.

    I, letting my feelings over the past cloud my judgment, responded with racism.

    Then again, which is worse? Chauvinism coupled with xenophobia or racism?

    To me, they kind of blur. It takes a intelligent person to intuit what I’m really getting at…

    It’s easy to see how the guy who uses the “N-word” is being hateful and bigoted, but it’s a bit harder to see the ignorance and stupidity in the kind who over-generalizes a culture based off its present instability and then has the audacity to put the other down for feeling prideful about it.

    1. Andy
      Andy May 1, 2014 at 11:22 am |

      Hateful and bigoted is one thing, Cosmic. Self and other harmful in a particular context, and to a certain degree, is where we look to discern the differences in such things as hateful and bigoted. You are reframing.

  40. Andy
    Andy May 1, 2014 at 11:10 am |

    Cosmic, I’m sorry if I come across as patronizing. I am trying my best not to do so in the negative sense.

    If you understand that I am trying my best, perhaps you might also see that, in reaching out to you on these matters, I am going to read like a person acting paternally (or maternally) ie caring for someone who might be in difficulties. I think it’s really important to discern and distinguish between the two, and not throw the baby out with the bathwater. You understand the notion of ‘reframing’?

    I’m not trying to put the whole blame on you, Cosmic. But the way you act is your whole responsibility, as you know – but it appears that you lose sight of this sometimes when emotional. Tell me about it. Black and white thinking is the enemy here.

    There are many reasons I’ve addressed you and not boubi. The most pressing is that it is you who seems to be in so much pain and so much difficulty at times, to the point where you would get completely banned for writing things that are beyond what even Brad’s moderation can allow, and that would deprive us and you of your more interesting and sincere contributions. The one’s that won’t keep hurting you, way after the event.

    Another is that this comments section allows for heated exchanges, but it is now very well documented how you often struggle with the emotional noise that is produced in such exchanges. When this happens you appear to lose much perspective and tend to group imagined slights, banter, or low level abuse equally with strongly offensive abuse. Really sensitive people can often find themselves protecting themselves against the heightened emotional pain that such exchanges induce, and that the rest of us are a little more thick-skinned in the face of. This can create a kind of zero-tolerance to any type of slight – real or imagined – and the person just puts up the defensive barrier. Problem is drawing up the drawbridge like that creates a mental context that treats all such kinds of expression as the same.

    Think about the weight you’ve attached, for example, to Boubi’s unsympathetic mockery about you needing ‘deep brain stimulation’ and such like. It was rude of him/her, and is part and parcel of boubi’s attitude towards you, which is marked by just taking the piss out of someone who appears to him/her beyond reach and inimical. Yes boubi was being a dick to you, and if you choose to respond then respond in kind, if you like, but it does have to be in kind – not in ways that could blow up in your face and hurt people who are just reading a comments section.

    It just seems to me, Cosmic, that your highly sensitive and intelligent self is working against you in a highly sensitized and cunning fashion. You’re clever and so your own worst enemy is going not just to be as clever as you, but also has the advantage of being able to work at the less inhibited level of the unconscious and has access to the growing pool of gasoline it keeps hording up against you and intermittently striking a match against to keep you in check. My on-going supposition is that in dealing with this misdirecting genius, one reclaims it and its power back into the psychic fold – and slowly an even more intelligent, compassionate and tolerant person emerges, who has access to their own real power, rather than giving it away in an attempt to escape the awful pain of self-and-other reproach.

    But it’s really difficult because of the raw emotions a sensitive person has and because their own genius is holding them hostage with the overflow of such and recasting things with the sort of masterful sleight of hand only I can fool myself with.

    I have no clue about taqiyya, and maybe that’s the point. ‘Nigger’, in the English speaking, largely American/British context for this blog, is a powerful curse that draws on deeply shameful acts and legacies that we’re still dealing with. Many black people I’ve known feel this keenly and with an ongoing frustration and pain that I’m sure you understand and can empathise with much more intimately than I – which is why it’s so concerning that you have crossed the line on that, and followed it up with more. I strongly doubt whether, once you’ve reflected on this without feeling barracked by the responses to you, that you would still equate the two insults. For all Boubi’s sins – real or imagined – he/she does appear to have some limits on the degree of abusiveness that is acceptable to this interweb commune – and being sensitive to the group one is hanging in seems the first port of call, and before one addresses what things certain members of that group have done to you.

    It’s not really so bad admitting you’ve got yourself caught up in some bad shit and jumped the shark, surely? This is a buddhisty kind of blog after all. We’d, at the very least, be narcissistically double-bound to provide the appearance of genuine respect for a co-loon.

    I’m writing this naked by the way. I shaved my whole hairy body this morning in the bath on a whim, having started on my beard. I feel young again – iwth an all over baby-bum rash.

    Mark – pass the lotion will ya.

  41. CosmicBrainz
    CosmicBrainz May 1, 2014 at 11:30 am |

    Andy, everything you say is true, and I acknowledge it… It was well-written too… My fiance agrees I tend to be very emotional, and when I feel threatened by others I tend to say obscene things. She says many similar things as you about me…

    For example, once I was doing my part-time job at marketing. There was someone prejudiced I confronted. Afterwards, I went crazy fantasizing of choking him and followed him with glee while I thought of kicking his ass.

    It is why I try to avoid Internet communication altogether. I think I have reached a point where the situation cannot be dissolved, and I do not think Boubi is willing to accept an apology. Granted, while my Zen training in the past and etc. has “humbled ‘me’ a bit” (I guess…), I have not reached the point where I am willing to apologize without a simultaneous apology from Boubi. The apology itself does not have to be sincere, but the act itself is what matters in this instance (in a kind of Dostoevskian-Undergroundman and Shakespearian-Macbeth kind of way). I am not going to give an apology if he wouldn’t likewise. Without a coincident apology from both of us, I’ll let all of my racist remarks directed towards him stand, as is, with all the pain they inflict, as retribution for how he attacked my heritage. It is delusional… but so be it. One needs some delusion and backbone to survive. It is what this competitive system fosters, and I am not going to bend down for anyone. I can still hate people while remaining indifferent to them. Life is insignificant but meaningful.

    I shall sheath my shamshir (شمشیر) now. I’m like Rostam; you hit me, I hit back harder. In the name of Ahura Mazda (اهورا مزدا), I will now stop giving a fuck about this trivial bullshit.

    This is final.

  42. boubi
    boubi May 1, 2014 at 11:33 am |

    So everybody should be comment-less because a racist with borderline psychiatric issues looses it repeatedly?

    It’s like jailing the players of the Nevada rancher and those of the basketball team.

    It’s not the first time sweety looses his marbles and i’m not the only one he cursed or whished death upon, showing a violent and dangerous behaviour repeatedly.

    If he cannot stand comments even when NOT directed at him or “his country” (which should be the US of A, or not?) he is like those crazed fanatics who burn ambassies because someone made a cartoon.

    Of course the solution could be “let’s not do anything that could be taken as disrespect” … and become hostages of any chemical brain imbalance.

    We should make a choice, it’s up to anybody of us.

    We should upheld the first emendement and expect to be able to express ourselves without being threatened, cursed or having to be confronted by some raving, foaming at the mouth demented.

    Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances.

    Brad, if you want to close the comments it is your right, i understand there could be legal issues caused by this racist deranged person. I won’t cause them just because of you.

    But do we have to shut up because someone is unstable and takes any pretext to show an aggressive behaviour?
    Violent behaviour of which nobody here is responsible and that finds its roots in cultural, personal and maybe also chemical imbalance of that racist who reserves the word nigger to some piece of shit (just quoting the guy, don’t blame me) making a very evident equivalence.

    Sweety should understand that he needs to be restrained.

    1. Shodo
      Shodo May 1, 2014 at 11:57 am |

      You could also try being less of a butthole…? 😉

    2. Mumbles
      Mumbles May 1, 2014 at 12:31 pm |

      Agreed. boubi, if CB is the gasoline, you are the spark.


      &Don’t get in a lather, Brad will only take down the comment section when he figures out how to not deactivate the Donate button in the process.

  43. The Idiot
    The Idiot May 1, 2014 at 11:49 am |

    Oh boubou :0(

    you are hurt too. we all are, somewhere…

    wishing u peace…

  44. CosmicBrainz
    CosmicBrainz May 1, 2014 at 11:52 am |

    Fred, pay attention to how Boubi feigns all responsibility while portraying me as a mentally deranged person. He makes it out to be that “I” (with emphasis) am entirely to blame for this perpetuating cycle of circle jerking. PAY ATTENTION.

    Now pay attention to how he likened me to “crazed fanatics who burn embassies”.

    Pay attention to his exceedingly condescending tone as he tries to get “close” to Brad by ostracizing me as someone who is mentally sick or whatnot, even though he does not know me personally or have the credentials to do so.

    Do you understand why I felt angry enough to call him the n-word? It’s not because I’m racist but because he keeps insulting me repeatedly while denying his own actions. I acknowledge I have been acting rashly many times, but not once has Boubi done that… Not once.

    Do you see why I refuse to apologize without a simultaneous apology from him?

  45. CosmicBrainz
    CosmicBrainz May 1, 2014 at 11:54 am |

    Also, it’s one thing to say violent things, but it’s another to go through with it. Conflating the two is ridiculous. Besides, it isn’t like I am the only one who has been saying hurtful things, Boubi. If you just acknowledge you’re hurt, and accept a simultaneous apology, the whole thing will dissolve. I have never harmed anyone except in boxing matches.

    1. boubi
      boubi May 1, 2014 at 12:11 pm |

      The difference is between
      – 2 years, or by a fine of not more than $5,000.00, or both
      – life without parole

      your choice sweety

  46. boubi
    boubi May 1, 2014 at 11:56 am |


    You showed once more that you are simply hallucinating when understanding anything that isn’t a praise to your ancestry, your heritage your country (USA?).

    Here was an answer
    but you prefered to go on foaming at the mouth and playing the victim of society, of the CIA and whatever else inventing meanings that weren’t there in the first place.

    You have issues? solve them, don’t make them other people concern.

    Every post you find something not to be happy with and call me out to “prove” and every time you don’t even want to try and understand and go on with your sociopathy.

    You had a difficult childhood (do you think you’ve been the only one)? Your business, not mine.

    You have “heritage” issues? Your business, not mine.

    Your behaviour is typical, you aggress people and then when it doesn’t work you “play the victim”, you didn’t “wanted to” … and redo the same after a short while.

    And you are the one whining we are in a buddhist blog we should

    Sooner or later you’ll find yourself in some very very deep shit … and booom as a compensatory action.

    I’m like Rostam; you hit me, I hit back harder. In the name of Ahura Mazda (اهورا مزدا), I will now stop giving a fuck about this trivial bullshit.

    Yesss, that’s right you are some aryan übermensch … just compensating kiddo.

    Try to be a person, but it not enough appealing for you right? You have to compensate for your own inadequacy.

    Remember what i told you the day you’ll push the button.

  47. The Idiot
    The Idiot May 1, 2014 at 11:56 am |

    CB read this…


    That’s what your posts about Boubi look like to me. Is this happening in you? Only you can say. I can’t know your mind internally. But externally it looks very much like this. FYI.

    1. CosmicBrainz
      CosmicBrainz May 1, 2014 at 12:20 pm |

      You haven’t read our other “convos”.

      The dude has said some pretty disgusting things to me before I pulled out the “N-word”.

      I also admitted my judgment was skewed to his message after mine, but that was understandable given he recently mocked me for committing “taqiyya”.

  48. The Idiot
    The Idiot May 1, 2014 at 11:56 am |

    BouBou, you too.

  49. The Idiot
    The Idiot May 1, 2014 at 11:58 am |

    And me too !!! 🙂

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